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When Kate accused the gracious and talented designer of benefiting from a product featured on Jon and Kate Plus 8, Em Tanner struck back with this: "Just wanted to clarify that Kate recieved MY design for FREE as a gift. Unreal. You are a piece of work!"
Here's a brief summary of Kate's latest Twitter war as we understand it:
Back when Jon and Kate Plus 8 first started, a lovely designer from Tennessee named Em Tanner sent Kate loads of goodies from her collection, including numbered t-shirts for the kids, and a calendar that according to Em's tweets, she gave to Kate for free.
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Em Tanner named the calendar "Kate's calendar," and put it up for sale on her web site. Although other independent sites such as Amazon.com have pointed out that this calendar was seen on Jon and Kate Plus 8, nowhere in the description on Em's official site does she mention the name Gosselin, nor does she even mention it was featured on Jon and Kate Plus 8. The calendar itself is actually called "Kessler Family Calendar."
Yesterday out of nowhere, Kate tweeted that she "thinks" Em Tanner marketed the calendar without her consent, and that it's "sad when people use your name for gain without permission!"
Em Tanner responded that she gave lots of things to Kate for free, she doesn't want Kate's name on a thing and she gets lots of hate mail about her and therefore would not use Kate as a marketing tool.
Kate responded that her name being used is "not legal" and the Em was "confronted" but she "ignored."
Em replied that that's "not how it went and we both know. Good luck to you." She later tweeted she's "actually not bitter at all. Just was floored I was being badmouthed so randomly."
At the end of it all, Kate admitted that she actually "started it" (the twitter war) and that she "didn't mean to cause a war."
Next time, Kate, maybe you should take your serious misappropriation accusations to the court of law, and not to Your Honorable Twitter. I hope you remember to bring your patent on the name "Kate" when you go!
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1342 Newer› Newest»I just ordered a bunch of stuff from Em Tanner. Standing up to the tyrant may be the best marketing she has ever done! Bravo, Em!
BTW, one of my sisters has that calendar. And her name is Kate (but I don't hold it against her). Sooo, who's to say it's not named after my sis and not KK? My sis wouldn't mind having Em "use" her name at all!
Ugh, I love how she managed to schedule in getting HER picture shrunk so Alexis could have her locket. She's got her priorities ya know!
I do wonder tho, she acted like she didn't know that "E" special was on, doesn't her 'people' *cough, Steve, cough* tell her when she/or something about her is on? Sounds like her phone isn't ringing these days.
I just read the interview Kate had with Diane Mizota that was posted above.
Kate said: "It's the business that we're in."
What "business" is Kate in?
I REALLY don't understand what Kate keeps pretending her "JOB" is when she talks.
She WAS on a Reality show that was supposed to be following her as she lived her life. So that was not a JOB. And she continually stated that the kids were not "working" when they were filming so that means she wasn't working either. So, not work/business for kids=not work/business for Kate.
I really wish someone would ask the follow-up question - "What is your JOB, Kate?" What "Business" are you in? Because she can't say she is on a Reality show anymore. She can't say she is an author (Really, was she ever?).
Being interviewed is not a job/business.
Calling herself a "TV personality" is not a JOB or a BUSINESS.
Maybe, she can say she is a part-time blogger for Coupon Cabin for now. But we all know she has the head office helping her with her posts (and even with help, they are quite pathetic).
So Kate, please describe and explain what exactly is your JOB or Business?
What is wrong with her? She goes what do you feel like eating (presumably for dinner, THAT day) and so they (or Leah) say Ceasar salad which she keeps made up in the fridge for HERSELF, and so then she says okay, they will get that IN A FEW DAYS. Why bother to ask?
And of course she took the time to get a picture of HER shrunk for the locket because that is what is important. How do they keep a straight face when she says these things.
Making them feel like they are the only child should not mean you pick ONE child to make feel as though are an only child and can't help but notice here she says the H. word.
What a life - home from school, chores, homework, showers, bed. Weekend organize, reorganize, move this here, put that together, just really seriously heavy duty chores.
The shots of the garage, the food (that she already organized once that took all day and she was exhausted), the shelving that Collin put together, and all that clothing in a span of a few days.
It is sad to say, but you can tell the kids did the majority of that because such as a good job was done of it. That took a long time and was hard, heavy work. And all those notes. Huh?
I have never known of any kids in my life who have to work that hard. We worked when we were growing up, but we didn't do it all and we had plenty of time to play. Our contribution to taking care of the youngest was to fight over who was going to get to give him a bottle and rock him to sleep. They need to be eating steak for the amt of energy they have to expend. How do they ever keep up in school. My heart goes out to those poor kids.
Kate's waiting for the next big thing?
Has she forgotten that her stardom was not becauase she was a great actress or had exceptional talents, she birthed eight kids.
What big thing is she expecting?
Jon showed his passive-aggressive side by calling the Tanner woman AND allowing her to tell the world what a swell guy he is for doing so. What an idiot. He could atleast try to pretend he's taking the high road.
Oh, it was funny when Kate talked about the picture of herself for the locket. THAT would be a priority.
Hey Joker, Don't you have another blog to slam Jon on?
Some of you people really crack me up.
Not a minute can go by after posting something negative about Jon without one of you having to defend his sorry ass.
I don't like either parent, the kids lost out.
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Does anyone know if the state of PA really set up a college fund for the G8 or was that a rumor? If it's true it's like the woman who won the lottery but is still getting food stamps.
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Pulling the Wool is correct, they were PA 529 funds that the Lt. Governor opened for the 8 on the tups first birthday. Lt. Gov. Knoll invited the public to donate to the funds as they wished and instructions were given on how to do this.
I have always suspected this drove Kate insanely insane, as the MacCaughey septuplets and their older sister were given full ride college educations at Iowa state. Kate seemed to be intent on matching them on the donation scale.
At any rate, those 529 funds locked in the prevailing tuition rates for 2005 at any PA college or any PA state affiliated college. Now, the invested funds can be used at any institution of higher learning in the country. Properly funded, those accounts are a gold mine for putting eight children through college, for those who choose to attend. Kate's earnings from DWTS ($500,000) would have funded those accounts nicely. She has said as recently as last summer the kids were not set for college. She has better things to spend her money on, like herself:(
I just ordered from Em Tanner and saved quite a bit with the coupon code! As I hit the 'place order' button I just burst out laughing, scaring the dog! What an evil, bitter, angry and hateful jerk Kate is. I can only imagine how much money was spent at Em Tanner today because of her delusions of grandeur and big babyfit over a calendar. Karma's a bitch.
I think Jon has every right to let people know he does not feel about Em the way Kate does. Just because your ex seeks to tear down someone's business doesn't mean you have to watch. And he's wise, now Kate can't say and Jon felt the same so there. He removed himself from any kind of lawsuit Kate is getting herself into. Joker you can call him a sorry ass but at least he works instead of talking about working. One works one talks. I'll take the one who works any day.
Saw this posted on my daughter's FB. Felt I would share:
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.
He said, "My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.
"One is Evil - It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
"The other is Good - It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."
Do we have to guess which one Kate has been feeding?
Thanks for your informed responses ladies. I must be a real sucker. I worked 2 jobs/7 days a week for a few years while I was a single mom. I filled out the FAFSA form and got NOTHING in grants towards my DD's college. She works her butt off at a job,and lived at home while attending college full time. It is despicable how hard-working regular folks get no help, but rich millionaires like the Gosselins get a locked in rate. How about doing that for every child? The only children that should have a fund like that are the children of our military men and women in my opinion. I am sure there are some other deserving folks, but the Gosselins are not one of them.
Hey Joker's, have you personally met Jon? No
Does Jon act like an A$$ on twitter time and again? No
Does Jon throw Kate under the bus time and time again? No
Has Jon accounted and apologized for his previous actions? Yes.
Some of us here personally know Jon and know his reputation in the community and do support him as he works on living and thriving in his Mediocre life!
Admin #11 -
I agree...Jon has a JOB. Kate does NOT have a JOB.
Jon is earning a steady paycheck. Kate is NOT earning a steady paycheck.
Jon is providing for himself and his kids honestly and without using the kids. Kate is Just. NOT. Honest.
Jon keeps his life with his kids private. Kate is still using the kids in her tweets, her website, and her blog. And even her failed Cruise.
Kate needs to stop her twittering and get a JOB!
From a post today at GWOP, from someone who says he was at the RC ball and has been with them for years, just part of the post:
Kate was with Steve, looked as though she was a movie star and acted that way. She even said "she was bored" but it was a night out from being a Mom to 8. Like no one ever did that.
She would not pose like the other celebrities did nor talk to the average folk.
She will never be invited to another ARC activity. Yes, there is something with her and Steve but it is not a love thing.
Steve had a list of the money people and those are the ones Kate posed for photos with.
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Steve, list and money people - wow and wow.
Sherri o: Thanks for posting that (ahem) interview
It was like a very long tweet, look how everything I do is for the kids who love me- why, Alexis wants my picture in her locket- and the kids are so responsible, such good helpers, good eaters and I know my break will come in the 'business', but until then all ( brand-new, brand-name) grifts accepted !!
Lots of parents where she is, many have large families. My husband had 11 in his family and it was the older ones raising the younger, eating, wearing left-overs/hand-me-downs. The G kids are spoiled and have more than the majority of kids in the world. If only their mother would sensibly see to it that they don't ever lose it all.
Why so much disdain for those who are critical of Jon? As long as it is respectful of other posters I don't understand why these comments are jumped all over. Not liking Jon does not equal being a sheeple and it's insulting that many people here make that assumption.
I personally am not a Jon fan. I think he's probably a fine person and seems to be doing right by the kids but past grifting still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Even without bringing up the post divorce fiasco that temporarily consumed his life he still fleeced church folks alongside his then-wife and nothing will ever change that.
What I don't understand Admin, is why people think Jon can't talk about stuff. That anything he does or says, he is an idiot, a dirt bag, an asshole etc. If Jon had no problem with EM, why should he not say/communicate nice things to EM, just cause the EX, is looking to keep up her life style by looking for money to squeeze out of a rock, and be nasty to EM , this does not put him in the same room. Jon is taking the high road, this happened 3-4 years or more ago. Jon could probably care less, but yes that was a smart move on his part. Jon is tryin to say to the world, that YES, I did not agree with Kate on lots and Lots of issues and things and contracts, the way our marrage was going, how the kids are being used, etc. To call Jon a sorry ass, is not justified. I've always liked Jon, he was the underdog, the abused husband, Jon probably thought to stick out the marriage as long as possible for the kids. Not for the TV show. Possibly hoping Kate would see the light, errors of her ways, come down from the clouds, come back from Lala land, back to real reality, not the crap TLC was pumping into her, with promises of fame and stardom and lots of money. TLC made a monster, and Kate will be getting worse, till someone, besides EM takes Kate to court for fraud or slander, it's coming. It may even come cause of the cruise. Remember this cruise is non-refundable, and if it is those people will lose money, no matter what. Kate & agency is billing the cruise, given the impression that the fans will interact with the twins, and Kate for the full cruise, boy are they in for a surprise. Judging how she acted on most of her past trips, good luck with that.
Done the post about Jon WASN'T respectful at all. It began with a condescending: you people crack me up.
I will always defend a parent who goes out and gets a mediocre job over one who is still pimping their kids. I also don't know what Jon is supposed to do to convince you he is serious. What more can he possibly do? The standard he is being held to by some is ludicrous.
"Some of you people really crack me up.
Not a minute can go by after posting something negative about Jon without one of you having to defend his sorry ass.
I don't like either parent, the kids lost out."
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It's your loss then. I'm sorry you don't know him. As long as they have Jon, they haven't lost anything - they've gained a loving parent.
And yes, there are those here who do know him. I'm one of them.
At least you get a laugh out of it. Laughter is the best medicine, only not at the expense of a parent who only wants to do what is best for his children.
"Jon showed his passive-aggressive side by calling the Tanner woman AND allowing her to tell the world what a swell guy he is for doing so. What an idiot. He could atleast try to pretend he's taking the high road."
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No. Jon showed class. He doesn't need to pretend anything. He showed how this should have been handled - by a phone call. He showed that he cared enough that this woman knows that one of them was grateful for what she sent to them. If you believe that he called simply to show "the world" what a good guy he is, I have swamp land to sell you in south Florida. I bet the farm that his first words on the phone weren't "I'd like to thank you for your generosity, but ONLY if you promise to write about me on Facebook. If not, I'm hanging up."
Actually Admin, that was how Joker began his/her second post after it was implied that Joker was a sheeple.
Maybe I'm over stepping by playing devil's advocate, but I just don't think it's right to imply someone is a sheeple by not liking Jon. We are all entitled to our opinions about this Gosselin debacle; that is why we are all visitors of this blog.
Sometimes people post on here about feeling like there is some "party line" that people need to tow else they be labeled "sheeple." I just want to point out that this is an example of that.
I believe Jon is very petty and uses situations like this to make himself appear to be the good guy.
Kate is a monster and noone knows this better than Jon. But if his concern were for his children he would do whatever he can to get along with their mother. But no, it's more important to him to make himself look like a good guy. It should have been handled privately and noy used as an opportunity to make Kate look bad.
Just my opinion.
It should have been handled privately and noy used as an opportunity to make Kate look bad.
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But wasn't in EM that spilled the beans about him contacting her? I think it was nice of him to call. After all the grifting those two did, it's nice that one of them has the decency to say thank you!
Yes, EM spilled the beans. But she made it clear she had asked Jon's permission to do so.
He could have taken the high road and said he didn't want to do anything to cause friction between him and Kate. THAT would have shown class.
It appears that TLC has thrown Kate to the curb, wiped the spraytan, makeup and straw from their hands and is sitting back with their legs up on the desk as she hangs herself. If a disgruntled acquaintance (nanny, crew, plastic surgeon's receptionist, there are so many to choose from) chose to expose more of Kate's bullshit....would TLC give a crap? Because if they don't, then it's up to tightwad Kate to defend herself legally or suck it up. What's a narcissist to do????
Ashley just tweeted this:
To all the people twittering me about Kate+8 : yes I do still see the kids when I go home to PA. They are my heart & that will never change.
off my LT that will be the only question I answer pertaining to the Gosselins so please don't blow up my Twitter feed:) I appreciate it!!
RV breakdown aired in UK last night. One fan told K8 she was rude, another asked if she was still friendly with Ashley and she said yes, all better. But notice Ashley says she sees the kids, says nothing about Kate. Careful wording IMO
Re: Jon
I liked Jon & his dealing with the kids (although he did way too much of everything) on the show but wished he would show a backbone more often. Then I realized he was seriously in an abusive relationship. Yes, he fell prey to the material goods and the call of fame and acted foolishly.He was also under Kate's control during the years of church talks and freebies from the show. Hopefully all that is in the past. He now doesn't take crap from Kate,still loves his kids and protects their privacy, works, and is not an attention-seeker. his call to Em was the decent thing to do. Maybe he's done the same to others' treated to Kate's rudeness. He is still in touch with Jodi & Kevin for example, and they are Kate's relatives. I can't say I like Jon from what I see but I give him some credit. And bravo for leaving the relationship with his abuser.
Yea, that certainly is more Jon's style haha. He's always been more subtle than Kate. Rememer those horrible couch interviews? She would always be so up front with her ugliness to him. She has no self awareness. She really has no idea how awful she comes across. Jon, on the other hand, has always acted more passive aggressive. He would mumble his retorts under his breath instead of manning up and telling her not to emasculate him on camera. Maybe he said those things to her behind the scenes, who knows? To me it certainly looked like he just sat there and took it until he couldn't stand it anymore.
In this case though I can't say I blame him. If I were in his shoes I'd take any opportunity to look better to the public and gain some sympathy. She's such a monster.
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It is despicable how hard-working regular folks get no help, but rich millionaires like the Gosselins get a locked in rate
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Emi, the 529 accounts are for EVERYONE, not just for "rich millionaires". All the state of PA did was OPEN the accounts for each child, which they could not do without the permission of the parents.
The state of PA DID NOT FUND the Gosselin 529s. The public was invited to contribute to the Gosselin funds, but apparently few people, if any, did.
Anyone can contribute to a 529, but as it happened, the Gosselin accounts were opened around the time that Kate was busy telling the world that Pennsylvania needed to pay for another year of a dedicated nurse to care for her children because Kate herself couldn't be expected to raise them herself.
That was the beginning of a whole lot of people in PA wondering exactly how greedy these parents were. Since Kate herself has since said that her children don't have money for college, it's a good bet that neither strangers nor the Gosselin parents funded the Gosselin 529.
The point of the accounts is that money grows tax free if used for college, and, if the funds are used at a state school, tuition rates are locked in as of a certain date.
You could have ANY mediocre job and open a 529 for your child, as thousands of parents have done.
529s accounts ARE for "hard-working regular folks", and anyone else who finds this a helpful way to save for college. They are open to all.
Again, the Gosselin kids did NOT get any special benefit from 529 accounts the governor opened as a way of publicizing the availability of this way to save for college.
Best bet, in fact, is that those kids are going to work their way through college, if they go at all.
Joker, what don't you get? Jon called Em to say HE appreciated her generosity. He didn't call to bash Kate. Em spilled what beans? That Jon was gracious and appreciative. That's wonderful! And it showed class that he did so without bashing Kate.
Interesting comment about how Tanner was so rude to another blog when she was getting free publicity from Jon & Kate.
Kate was wrong to start this twitter war. But to hold EM up as a saint seems silly.
This is not as black and white as people try to make it.
I think it was nice of Jon to thank Em. I also think for him it was an added bonus to juxtapose Kate's bitchiness with his gratitude.
Can someone with twitter please tweet EM and tell her to remove Kate from her site completely? She mentions her in other areas as well.
Joker - Agreed about Tanner. Maybe I'm too distrustful of people but at the end of the day I believe that people are out for themselves. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Tanner didn't care about how awful Kate was until it bit her in the ass. It was wrong of Kate to bash EM on twitter, absolutely uncalled for, no question about it. In a way Tanner is lucky because she benefited from Kate before when people liked her, and now she is benefiting again by being attacked by Kate and getting business from the haters.
If Jon were putting in his two cents about Kate trashing Melissa from Dance Moms, or Kate's tweet war with the Pap from Philly, I'd be with you guys.
Here's the thing, the Em Tanner twitter war involved him DIRECTLY. Kate was speaking about what went down regarding some freebies given to BOTH Kate and Jon when they were together. If that is not how Jon perceives it, not only does he have a right to speak up, a moral obligation to speak up, but he is also wise to put it out there he is not backing up libelous statements in case feisty Em Tanner gets ticked enough to sue.
Kate made some pretty darn serious statements. I suspect Em Tanner is too nice of a person to sue her, but another person would. She said Em Tanner's business did "bad things" and was doing things "not legal." Holy cannoli, you cannot say that and expect to get out of a lawsuit that follows, trust me. If someone were saying that about a business deal I WAS A PART OF and I knew it to not be true, I would be running as fast as I could to make sure I put out there publicly that I did not share those "sediments". Jon will not be of much use to his kids if he gets wrapped up in another lawsuit.
The man is stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he says nothing, he looks like he suports Kate in trying to bring down an innocent and lovely woman's hard-earned business. If he says something all of a sudden he's accused of playing tit for tat.
The Em Tanner thing involved him. If it didn't, I would roll my eyes and say oh there goes Jon again why won't he shut up. But the problem is, it did involve him, and directly. Oh and lest we remember, Jon would have no reason to call Em Tanner if not for Kate instigating this entire thing.
Mystery is Kate has said on two different occasions. Then later she changed the story of college and how much she did or didn't have.
She did the show to fund for college.
Then it was they did the show for memories.
The kids are fully funded for college.
The kids have substantial funds but not enough.
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The kids just play in front of the camera to, my children are WORKING by my side, this is the business we're in.
Can she not remember what she says one thing to the next? I doubt she can even remember how to make her cinnamon buns, was it with or without cinnamon? Who knows!
I want an interviewer who will sit down prepared with a list of things she's said then backtracked on or changed her stories (with dates!) of when she said what. I want this person who will interview her to sit with a list of how many times she's bashed Jon in any set of given interviews and WHY.
I would love someone to ask her why she sits on her butt at home without looking for work. What big break is she expecting? And please, Kate, try to understand that just because you say "You're in talks," with whomever will never guarantee you a job. People talk, talk is cheap. Sounds about right up your alley of understanding.
With her current EM Tanner situation...will there ever be hope for her?
I bet Kate has long since used those 529s the kids had, they are probably empty. Like a lot of parents, they start college funds for their kids but then things happen and some parents use the money set aside for other things. Car repair, raising kids, emergencies.
By the time the kid might as, "Do I have a college fund?" Watch Kate will say, "You did once. But I had to use all that money to support you...and to support my coffee, shoe, bodyguard, hair, nail and Hollywood addicted lifestyle. The good news is you guys can get jobs to earn money if you want stuff! Aren't I, like, um, the most amazingly awesome mother of 8 you've ever had? You better say yes! I fed you organic bean casseroles with no milk and I gave you hand-me-downs!"
Joker, I well remember Em Tanner defending them. No one is trying to deny that.
The thing is, that was years ago and way before this situation got out of hand. There is simply no denying the exploitation in the beginning was not nearly as bad as it started to get toward the end. Em Tanner got involved with this family as part of a business deal as many other designers before her have done business deals. She defended her clients as any good business person would. The deal quickly went sour as Kate got famous, and Em Tanner rightly bailed and disappeared.
The comment that she is just out to make money makes me laugh. Um, of course she is. This whole thing was about her business deal. What is she supposed to be doing, out to save eight children? She was out to negotiate a clothing deal and when Kate tried to screw her, she backed out. End of story.
If Em Tanner was involved with this family for six years and suddenly pulled out that would be one thing. It wasn't that long, it was in the beginning way before it got really bad, and she completely disappeared and minded her own business ever since then.
I don't think she is a saint. I think she is a human being who did the best she could at the time, was classy not to throw Kate under the bus when she got screwed, and only defended herself as ANYONE would when Kate dug her out of hibernation YEARS later.
It astounds me that any of this is even causing such debate and pessimistic remarks, though noticeably, from only a few. It really shouldn't. It is what it is.
Done, I've asked people not to call people sheeple at the drop of a hat.
But I would note that the first post of the day from joker was a violation of rule number FOUR. Which leads me to believe we may have a shit stirrer on our hands.
Whatever is going on I really don't know but Joker and someone else have been fighting about some other blog, violating rule 4, and so when you come in like that instigating crap that has nothing to do with this blog, I have a skeptical eye.
Done, I've asked people not to call people sheeple at the drop of a hat.
But I would note that the first post of the day from joker was a violation of rule number FOUR. Which leads me to believe we may have a shit stirrer on our hands.
Whatever is going on I really don't know but Joker and someone else have been fighting about some other blog, violating rule 4, and so when you come in like that instigating crap that has nothing to do with this blog, I have a skeptical eye.
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Dwindle 85 -- Yep, class of '70. You a Crusader too? PURPLE POWER!!
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I am I am!!!! BSW!!! (waving arms wildly). And my niece is CapLaw, graduating this spring. We are hoping to do the Legacy Photo. Tomorrow I will wear my Alum School of Social Work TShirt and think of you!
Yes Admin, in many ways Jon is "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't." He absolutely did the right thing by calling EM and clearing things up with her. What may be construed as questionable is giving permission to broadcast this conversation.
I can see why someone might think the only way to take the high road is to tell EM to keep the conversation under wraps. At the same time he has such a bad reputation I can't blame the guy for wanting to be seen in a good light by those who follow the Gosselin drama. I can see Joker's point, but the guy is only human after all. The scrutiny must be unbearable.
I don't think 529 plans have a locked in rate, the locked in ones are something different, they are special plans through state school systems, correct? Does PA even have the locked in rate plan for their public schools. I'm not sure but I don't think they do. I thought those kinds of plans were sort of becoming obsolete anyway, too many problems and variables. 529's are a better bet.
I think the only difference with the Gosselin 529 plan is that unlike a private one for your kid, they opened it up to the public to contribute. Who knows how much is in it but it could grow a lot in 18 years. That's one of the few things I don't have a problem with for these kids. At least it's for the KIDS and Kate can't get her grubby little hands on it.
I don't think 529 plans have a locked in rate, the locked in ones are something different, they are special plans through state school systems, correct? Does PA even have the locked in rate plan for their public schools. I'm not sure but I don't think they do. I thought those kinds of plans were sort of becoming obsolete anyway, too many problems and variables. 529's are a better bet.
I think the only difference with the Gosselin 529 plan is that unlike a private one for your kid, they opened it up to the public to contribute. Who knows how much is in it but it could grow a lot in 18 years. That's one of the few things I don't have a problem with for these kids. At least it's for the KIDS and Kate can't get her grubby little hands on it.
As a westbrooke neighbor for three years, Jon is a wonderful father, wonderful and my husband and I never waiver on that. People do not understand intense filming and how he was treated, we never condoned his short yes short tangent he went through but having bared witness, we in a strange way understood. The mans family colleagues and friends surrounded him and he came back around and got his perspective back. My husband and I have all the faith in the world because he had a strong upbringing from a wonderful father. Jon was thankful of the kindnesses he received and as far as Kate I will say what my mother always said....if you don't have nothing to say, say nothing at all.........................................
Tanner didn't care about how awful Kate was until it bit her in the ass.
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I don't know if that's true. Maybe Tanner couldn't SEE how awful Kate was until it happened to her. Then she understood what people meant. Sometimes it's hard for people to imagine how someone else feels until they feel it too.
It's sort of like how you can't really know what it's like to deal with a narcissist unless you've had one in your life. It's hard to understand until you experience it.
So this is from an article on Yahoo about DWTS and how it's premiere had low numbers. Hmmm, so much for Katie being a draw, she certainly isn't mentioned in this bunch!
As Entertainment Weekly put it, "The secret to casting 'Dancing' is having hot-button names like Bristol Palin, The Situation, Nancy Grace, and Chaz Bono: celebrities that a large number of Americans have strong feelings about, positive or negative."
To all the people twittering me about Kate+8 : yes I do still see the kids when I go home to PA. They are my heart & that will never change.
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I am very, very happy to hear this. Thank goodness. Yes and I did notice she didn't mention Kate. For all we know she goes through Jon. Who knows.
Joker came here defending a blog that has DIRECTLY attacked the owner of THIS blog. I think that is reason enough to raise an eyebrow.
(Administrator) said...39 "Jon would have no reason to call Em Tanner if not for Kate instigating this entire thing"
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This is the truth. Rather than assume Jon called EMTanner with some sort of dastardly, self-promoting, hidden agenda, why not give him the benefit of the doubt? I think it was very thoughtful of him to make that call to assure EM that he does not support Kate's thinking on this. Also (as Admin stated) wise of him to cover his own as* from any potential legal action. As for allowing EM to relate the conversation on her business facebook account? Why not? Her BUSINESS integrity and honesty took a direct low-blow from Jon's ex-wife! And then Kate had the nerve to leave a dangling insinuation as she so often does, hinting at the bad things EM does and the questionable legality of her business dealings. Why on earth should Jon not want to publicly distance himself from this and deflect Kate's inappropriate slams from a business owner he has no quarrel with? I would! I don't think giving his permission to inform her staff and customers of their conversation is offside at all. I have no sense of self-promotion whatsoever. He's been quiet and private for a very long time now - maybe we've all just become too accustomed to Kate's underhanded ways to take an objective view of anything to do with Jon? I think these criticisms of him are way off base and reaching, to say the least. Just my opinion.
Done and Done, yes. Regardless whether it wasn't the right decision, it is not like he drowned a kitten or something, it's not really worth getting upset over and calling him an a-hole etc. The scrutiny on every chess move he makes is insane for someone who does not deserve it. Kate deserves it. He doesn't. I think it's time not to sweat the small things with Jon. Call me when he exploits his kids.
I know the sheeple talk about putting yourself in someone's shoes but it really does apply in this situation. Imagine your ex-spouse is a public figure who just made a public announcement that an old business deal you had you were involved with resulted in "illegal" activity from the business and that business does "bad things.". Now imagine you know that to be an absolute lie and in fact you actually still LIKE the owner of that business. I would be calling my attorney first thing asking them what to do in case my ex gets sued. And I would not doubt for a second an attorney to say put it out there you don't agree, make sure you give business owner a call to make sure she understands you are NOT aligned with your ex on this issue. That is just smart if you think in terms of everything could be a lawsuit.
I would also struggle morally with whether it is morally right to not say anything and let this person I know did NO wrong to be trashed by someone I KNOW is lying because I was there. And to allow the public and this business owner to think my silence meant my approval. No, sorry, that is not right in my book. Morally, I hope I would say something.
As Joker said, it's not black and white. Well, neither is the decision to put it out there that you don't agree with Kate. There are good, moral, upstanding, legal reasons to make it known to the public how you stand that have absolutely nothing to do with trying to be the "good guy." Em put it out there the other day he was a great guy, he didn't need to remind everyone. That doesn't even make sense, since she already said he was. Had she said nothing about him I might buy the good guy thing. But that's not the facts here.
Here's another point. Should Jon be teaching his children that when someone says bad things about someone else and you know them to be a lie, you should just sit there and just watch it all implode and not come to the defense of that person being attacked? Personally I think we don't teach our children ENOUGH to stick up for others. No wonder bullying is so bad, kids are conditioned not to step up for the person being bullied.
Remember what Kate says? Anyone who doesn't report a crime is guilty. Well, Jon needed to put it out there, indirectly, that he did not agree with Kate's lies. He reported her crime.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the kids being aware that sometimes business deals go sour and that not everyone has the same take on how it went down and that it's important to say the truth if you feel someone is saying something different than how you feel things happened.
KG: As long as they keep stringing that would be great. But it would be nice to have…the one, where you can breathe for a few months, or years. It's the business that we're in.
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Really, Kate? You haven't had enough opportunities presented to you? Not enough doors flung open? Multi-millions earned exploiting your kids, and you never felt like you can breathe and relax? Still waiting for that one big opportunity? What would be enough to fill the vast void and emptiness in your life that is obviously growing bigger by the day?
As entertaining as this recent flame-out has been, either 1) we are seeing Kate Unplugged and Uncensored , or 2) Kate is teetering on the edge of a complete breakdown, or 3) Kate is finally realizing that it is over for her, or, ding ding ding, 4) all of the above.
Whatever the reason for her recent meltdowns, I am concerned for her poor children. They have already lost so much of their precious childhoods and now they have to take care of Mommy. Those poor kids. Yes, Jon is lucky to have escaped Kate, but his children have to fend for themselves against this succubus that is their mother. I don't think that it will be much longer before the twins will be left home alone with the tups--if they haven't already.
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To all the people twittering me about Kate+8 : yes I do still see the kids when I go home to PA. They are my heart & that will never change.
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I am very, very happy to hear this. Thank goodness. Yes and I did notice she didn't mention Kate. For all we know she goes through Jon. Who knows.
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I have to admit that when I saw a sheeple tweet her on K8s twitter I looked at her twitter profile to see if it was really her and it is. Back in September she tweeted about a reporter contacting her when the RV aired here. I did see some tweets from her to both Jon and Ellen but they were replies. One of them to Ellen sounded like commisseration. I don't want to invade her privacy by posting her twitter name or looking further but she looks like a good kid away at college. Hopefully she got some good money for school for the hell I'm sure she went through.
Could Em or Beth or any other whistle blower have prevented any of the Kate Plus 8 trips, or episodes, had they come forward? I think that can trump keeping your trap shut for 'the sake of the kids' or because you want to seem classy. Real class is protecting children from tangible dangers. It is not protecting them from the facts that they may read about in the future.
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Well, since Kate saw fit to give us a personal account of "Globe-gate", and in her own words, handled it exactly as Admin outlines above? I think Jon absolutely has a right and an obligation to demonstrate that this is NOT how normal people go about dealing with people. Or their own children! What you stated above Admin, is exactly how Kate allowed her own 7-year-old son to be dealt with by his mother and his siblings - accused without proof, tried and convicted with no defense! And when the truth came out? No apology from Mom needed...just the lying sister who was to let him off the hook in secret, between just the two of them. I am quite certain that had Jon been there, the outcome might have looked very different than it did. This is KATE'S version of justice and her accusatory nature. Jon is no longer subject to gag orders and restraints to prevent him from defending his position on such things. I say YAY Jon. Keep doing the right thing and you'll prevail every time. Unlike your morally questionable ex-wife.
The up side to all of this is than EM has been bombarded with orders from the haters.
Kind of smart for her to engage in and play twitter wars with Kate. From a business point of view.
She knows which side to play in any given situation. I bet she's laughing all the way to the bank.
Since I'm in the doghouse here regardless, here's something bugging me.
Jon made Ellen a practical step-mom to those kids for two years. It bothered me but I figured he was going to marry the girl so it wasn't too bad.
But now Ellen is history. It was incredibly selfish of Jon to do this to his kids.
Ellen is not a bad person, but she should not have been their weekend mum each and every time he had the kids for two years.
Common wisdom should prevail.
You don't introduce your children to relationships like that unless you're serious. It was a crappy thing to do.
Joker, please stop bashing Jon. I personally think it SUCKS ASS that Kate paraded around with a married man for years despite the discomfort it caused her husband, confusion it caused her kids and disrespect it showed Gina Neild and her children
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The up side to all of this is than EM has been bombarded with orders from the haters.
Kind of smart for her to engage in and play twitter wars with Kate. From a business point of view.
She knows which side to play in any given situation. I bet she's laughing all the way to the bank.
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Don't you think that she would have done this along time ago if it was about money... face it Kate started it and she defended herself in what world is this the wrong thing to do?
Cry, I agree with you about Kate.
I'm sorry we strongly disagree about Jon.
It's been interesting here today, I'll try to check in tomorrow.
Joker ...you do know that Ellen and Jon didn't live together.
Joker I think you just outed yourself by calling us "the haters." And coming here defending another blog that clearly doesn't like this one.
Also it is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that EM engaged with Kate in the hopes that people who don't like her will buy her crap. In what universe would that ever happen the way you plan it? This is really a one in a million thing, Kate is that bizarre and out of this world.
Talk about a stretch.
I agree, if EM were laughing all the way to the bank she would have come out of hiding ages ago with her "story".
Let's make it simply for you. KATE started this entire debacle. Not Em, not us, not Jon. ALLLLLL KATTTTE.
Administrator) said... 53 "Should Jon be teaching his children that when someone says bad things about someone else and you know them to be a lie, you should just sit there and just watch it all implode and not come to the defense of that person being attacked?"
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Will the kids look back on his years exploiting them and then staying silent, while KK and TLC ran ramparts over them and him, and think he's a huge hypocrit? IT may not be resonable but they will ask 'why didn't you help us daddy?'
Will the kids look back on his years exploiting them and then staying silent, while KK and TLC ran ramparts over them and him, and think he's a huge hypocrit?
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There is a difference between being a hypocrite, and learning from your MISTAKES and changing how you approach things.
No, I don't think the kids will think Jon a hypocrite. If he were exploiting the kids and running to Em Tanner, then yes, he would be.
I don't follow your logic.
Jon was blasted for being too passive. Now when Kate does something he knows to be a lie, he's a hypocrite? Gimme a freaking break.
Even Jon has said he will have to account to his children for the time he DID exploit them, and he should. But I'm guessing when the children are of age, they are going to be much more angry at the parent who still exploited them for years and years and years, as opposed the one who exploited them a few years then realized his error and stopped, and even got into a messy lawsuit with TLC to try to stop it.
Sue Buddy, that is your best one yet!!
Joker, you are just shit stirring now.
You need to talk to a child psychologist about when is the "proper" time to introduce a girlfriend. Wait too long, and your kids feel like you are hiding something from them, can feel very less then, like they are not important enough to be included in Daddy's life. It is NOT black and white, a favorite phrase of yours. And how in the hell do you know Ellen to be there every weekend? There are tons of pap photos of Jon with his kids without Ellen. Look them up.
MOVE ON from random Jon bashing. It's just not on topic, it is a lame attempt to distract from Kate's dirty deeds, and you know it.
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Administrator) said... 53 "Should Jon be teaching his children that when someone says bad things about someone else and you know them to be a lie, you should just sit there and just watch it all implode and not come to the defense of that person being attacked?"
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Will the kids look back on his years exploiting them and then staying silent, while KK and TLC ran ramparts over them and him, and think he's a huge hypocrit? IT may not be resonable but they will ask 'why didn't you help us daddy?'
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Jon screwed up.. he admitted he screwed up, he apologized for screwing up and by all apperances he has held fast to making it right.
I would challenge ANY parent to admit they have not messed up although not on this scale which in my thinking makes it even harder for him to correct but he seems to be doing just that.
He has even said that he knows one day he will have to face his kids about all this, therein lies the differance between him and Kate... He gets it she doesn't
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The up side to all of this is than EM has been bombarded with orders from the haters.
Kind of smart for her to engage in and play twitter wars with Kate. From a business point of view.
She knows which side to play in any given situation. I bet she's laughing all the way to the bank.
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I doubt the business woman is laughing all the way to the bank, but she is laughing at Kate.
I am sure Kate LAUGHS ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK every time one of her fans sends her socks, or clothes for the kids, gifts for her or the kid's bdays, asks companies to send her under- armor, free keurigs...When Kate has more money COMBINED than all her little fans (ya remember the fans? the public she so obviously ignores while she is trolling around the parking lots?)
I will agree with you that Jon shouldn't have introduced a woman into the kid's lives until he knew the relationship would be one of permanence.
As far as buying something from a company because she had a twitter war with Kate, I wouldn't. Her designs are cute, but way out of my budget for a non-discretionary item.
Could Em or Beth or any other whistle blower have prevented any of the Kate Plus 8 trips, or episodes, had they come forward?
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That isn't the point. The point is when you love a child, and you know if you say bad things about their mommy that child could be very hurt, it is very hard to say something. It is not about trips or filming or the greater picture or not. It's about the deep love of a child and what it does to your decision making as to that child.
It makes me wonder about some of these "fans" if you just apply good common sense and how parents should act towards their own children it should be crystal clear... yet they will defend her to the death.
One of my favourite sayings applies to them. You can't fix stupid!
And here she goes again, making someone's loss somehow about her:
@hopefor2012Jess I'm so sorry! My fave baby in nursery at church (I was 15)died from SIDS as well.Gabrielle. I can't imagine being m&d..:( 44 minutes ago
Give it a rest, you are not relatable.
@hopefor2012Jess I'm so sorry! My fave baby in nursery at church (I was 15)died from SIDS as well.Gabrielle. I can't imagine being m&d..:( 45 minutes ago
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Gee, Kate, make it ALL about yourself. ALL THE TIME. Kate's life-long fascination with babies is just super creepy.
Oh good grief!
. The point is when you love a child, and you know if you say bad things about their mommy that child could be very hurt, it is very hard to say something.
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With all due respect, you're way off base here IMO.
The silence of ANYONE who saw what was going on and DIDN'T say something is incriminating.
Weren't you just going on about how if you WITNESS A CRIME, you should report it??
Kudos to Jodie and Kevin for speaking up!
@DianeMizota Thank you so much for an honest, true, fair and accurate article about me! I appreciate it SO much! 5 minutes ago
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Honest, true, fair and accurate? Kate must have spiked the jug of koolaid she gave Diane.
The scary thing is plenty of people who loved those kids tried to talk sense into Kate, including their own father, to
no avail. Jodi and Beth spoke out on behalf of the kids and their reward: they were treated like servants, cut off, and in Jodi's case, subjected to years of hostility. I think Kate's trump card always will be that she is their mom. People have backed off, walked away, taken the high road, bitten their tongues all in the name of not hurting the kids' mother. That and not wanting to go up against TLC. But all these people who care about the G8 are pretty helpless to do any good when the kids' own mother does not protect them or treat them with the respect and affection every child deserves.
Thank you all for reading my article and commenting. So glad you enjoyed it.
Is Kate in observation mode only tonight? Maybe she's thinking over her irrational behavior last night.
Nah!
I didn't notice the pic of the kids wearing Em's t-shirts had their faces blocked out at first. There are so many pics of them with their little heads hanging down, looking sad, just thought it was another of those. Isn't that sad?
What a ride this has been. Way to go, Em. Who's next? All you providers of free products have to be so hurt to be treated like this. Where is YOUR justice for your hard work?
Admin, know you are exhausted. I am just from reading about all this. Thank you.
FYI about Ashley. Whomever said she goes through Jon is correct. Kate and her still don't get along that well, only for the sake of the kids. Ashley is a class act that finally spoke her mind for all the world to see and as she said in the final episode (where all the 'players' were talking to the camera) she should have said more, sooner. She put up with a lot of crap.
Yeah, Diane Mizota, thanks so much for not being a big fat lying slob! Unlike sum ppl who make up LIES to make name for themselves and end up looking desperate! U kissed my flat ass and so u rock!
I chuckled at this tweet to Kate:
You're going through some very hard,dark time.
Know that it's only going to get worse and that you deserve it. :)
IMO? I am NOT commenting on the MORALITY of not speaking up about a child. I am merely commenting on the psychological feelings that people have toward children and why it stops them for writing "tell alls."
I cannot say that is right.
Believe me, if this feeling didn't exist there would be a lot more people in Hollywood gossiping, there would be quite a bit more tell alls in Hollywood. I am willing to bet that you see a LOT less tell alls from people with kids. They are human shields. Kate uses them to get people in impossible situations where they don't want to hurt the kids.
Dwindle 42 -- My degree is in Speech (Audiology and Speech Pathology) and History, with a minor in Vocal Music. I was in Chapel Choir 3 years. Took a few Soc. courses. Bet we had some of the same profs. Did you have Grimm? Frye? Burke? Edmondson? Langholz? Montgomery? Heinke? Zimpher? How neat that you and niece are doing a legacy photo! I'll be thinking of you tomorrow, but NOT wearing a Cap shirt (only one I have is a sweatshirt and it's going to be 84 here).
Wow. I sort of view it as inappropriate to interject oneself completely randomly into someone else's little blurb by saying, "Oh yeah, me too! It happened to me, too!"
It's like when you're a kid and you try to fit into an adult conversation by saying, "Yeah, I know." When in reality you have no idea what everyone is talking to. You just can't help yourself and try to fit in where you don't belong.
What is even more bizarre is people's needs to tell Kate that such and such died...why? It's not like Kate really cares unless she can put herself into the conversation. She's not being relatable she's just trying to appear sympathetic but she comes off as being a complete weirdo not to mention jerk about the whole thing.
People are the most relatable to other people when they fess up and say they're not perfect, they admit when they've done something wrong, that like everyone else certain things are off limits to discuss or they find a more mature way to approach a tender subject instead of just blurting it out. People you can relate to tend not to fly off the handle just because you said something they might no agree with.
For and adult, Kate sure has no idea what the word boundaries means. If she did she would sit back and ponder about half the stuff she's put out there for people to read at will.
Gooing back to the Celebrity Apprentice tweet--I see she said "they keep asking". but she doesn't say WHO keeps asking, and she doesn't say that "they" are asking HER. She is very crafty when it comes to her wording. Why wouldn't she say that the CA people keep asking her? Instead, ANYBODY could be asking ANYBODY else. So, who is doing the asking? Her rabid fans? The CA people? The kids? Who? And who are they asking? If she were the one being asked, then why not say it? Another of her carefully-worded non-answers. I'm sure she's patting herself on the back for stirring things up and yet still leaving herself plausible deniability.
What a FASCINATING day in KateWorld. While this blog has been humming the entire day, Twitter has had much new activity. Let's see: Cindy had a Live One ("LO"), the "haters" told LO she should be wary of certain "elements" (CJ, to be precise). LO asked Cindy, Cindy gave her the "sweet old lady" line . . . the upshot is it left such a bad taste in LO's mouth she has decided against going. Too bad, she seemed very serious and was bringing along THREE other "Kate rate" customers. Cindy has made a huge mistake by aligning herself with CJ. I almost feel sorry for her, but she should have realized that allowing someone else (about whom she really knows NOTHING) to "vet" potential passengers is just not acceptable business practice. CJ, of course, is now frantically retweeting everything positive said about Kate in the last 12 hours. But there are some tracks that are just TOO BIG to cover, and hers are all over cyberspace.
Then there's milo. Indefatigably defending the indefensible--doesn't she ever get tired?? Anyway, Sue_Buddy (hi Sue! GREAT new post!) asked milo if she would broker an interview with Kate.
miloandjack
@Sue_Buddy I suggest you e-mail her and respectfully request an interview. Given the nature of past articles, I doubt she could trust U! :)
Aah, just another day in KateWorld. Looking forward to tomorrow!
The sad thing is that living it will hurt much more than reading about it for the Gosselin kids. I do wonder who 'spent' more buying people's silence, Kate The Mother or TLC Lawyers.
Done and done, I have to agree with you about the juvenile name calling of anyone who dares have a different opinion.
This Tanner lady is one intelligent business owner. I, too, agree that her opinion shifts directly with the # of sales she can make. And rightly so.
Would I spend any of my hard earned cash on her frivolous junk? No. Kate Gosselin is not that important in my life.
Jon? He's wishy washy at best.
Jon shouldn't introduce a long term girlfriend until he's sure that it's permanent?
Then maybe Kate shouldn't introduce the camera crew until she's sure that it's permanent.
I, too, agree that her opinion shifts directly with the # of sales she can make. And rightly so.
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I'm not understanding this. Em Tanner liked and defended Kate. The business contract went sour and she felt wronged. She disappeared into the shadows. Kate drew her back up and Em expressed how she has felt since she was wronged years ago--wronged.
She has had two opinions over the course of six years. First she liked Kate, then she didn't.
How is that blowing any which way the wind blows? In fact that's how most of us started! We used to like Kate, now we don't.
The fact is Em AND Kate probably could of stood to make a ton of money off each other but Em got out of it.
It just makes absolutely no sense to suggest Kate is saying she doesn't like Kate to boost scales. She is supposed to know that that would prompt a few handful of people to buy things to support her? Em is saying she doesn't like Kate because KATE attacked her, period. Anyone would!
Would I spend any of my hard earned cash on her frivolous junk?
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Okay. Not everyone feels that way. I wouldn't buy some of her stuff but I do think her t-shirts and iPhone covers are very cute.
Poor Em minding her own business then some half baked celeb throws her under the bus followed by people calling her cute little business frivolous junk.
You know what? It's a small business she built on her own. I'm happy to support someone's small business and get this economy back on track as opposed to buying a similar tshirt at Walmart any day.
They are human shields. Kate uses them to get people in impossible situations where they don't want to hurt the kids.
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Yes I don't know why that is a difficult concept to understand. It's not that people don't WANT to say something it's that they are trying not to cause any more pain for the kids' sake, not the parent's. And the parent knows full well that's why that person won't say anything.
Kate's using them to protect herself in those situations. In Ashley's case and in her own words she told the children to please believe she loves them NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE TELLS YOU. She knew Kate was using them as a barrier between them otherwise she'd really get blasted for her actions.
Would I spend any of my hard earned cash on her frivolous junk? No. Kate Gosselin is not that important in my life.
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I wouldn't buy anything because of Kate Gosselin. I have bought there before because there are some nice items that you can't find in stores. I've bought the lunch boxes, which are great, and some bags/totes for gifts. What's one man's junk...
My opinion on Kate saying 'they' have asked her about CA and she can't find the time...
I don't think Kate is smart enough to spout off that line so quickly. (If THEY means CA, or THEY means fans, or whoever).
I think she's just LYING. That, she can do in a heartbeat.
For anyone who's interested, Live One got confirmation from Cindy that right now the cruise has only booked around 30 people (not clear if all 30 are paying the Kate rate). And she also said that Cindy told her if Kate didn't show, $400 would be refunded. Based on the RC's cheapest published fare ($1,065) against the Kate Cruise cheapest ($1,900), it sounds like the travel agent is pocketing about 20% of the total fare. And that $400 (20%) would be going to Kate. Nice work if you can get it. If 30 people pay to see her, that's a free cruise for at least 5 people (assuming Steve and a nanny) PLUS $12K in her pocket.
Cindy also told her that the twins would be at a meet and greet, and beyond that she was not specific about other activities involving them.
I honestly don't think there are 30 signed up for Kate's program. I guess we'll know soon enough.
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@Sue_Buddy I suggest you e-mail her and respectfully request an interview. Given the nature of past articles, I doubt she could trust U! :)
lol, Milo. I think it works both ways. Who could trust Kate to tell the truth in an interview?
Milo is such a ditz.
Actually call me crazy but if I owned a small business and got into a twitter war with a celeb, I would just assume I was going to LOSE a few sales over this because I was surely going to alienate the celeb's fan base. I would never in a million years assume I was going to gain some sales in that celeb's haters.
That is just out of this world not credible that's how it went down.
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Jon shouldn't introduce a long term girlfriend until he's sure that it's permanent?
Then maybe Kate shouldn't introduce the camera crew until she's sure that it's permanent.
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Given the kid's life situation, in hindsight he probably shouldn't have made Ellen such a fixture in the kids' lives before he had the chance to get his head straightened out.
Gee, these kids were born with cameras in their faces, then the cameras go away, then they come back, then they go away again...mom goes away, dad stays home, then dad goes away for good, and mom still goes away and comes back...too many nannies to count, relatives disappear, friends disappear, heck, even the family dogs disappeared, and then only one came back.even the camera crew came, left, came back, then left again..
I guess the kids are used to people coming and going, but gee, Jon needs to get comfortable in his own life before introducing another woman to the kids.
Haven't they been through enough?
JMO.
Okay. Not everyone feels that way. I wouldn't buy some of her stuff but I do think her t-shirts and iPhone covers are very cute.
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@Sue_Buddy I suggest you e-mail her and respectfully request an interview. Given the nature of past articles, I doubt she could trust U! :)
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WTF?
Is Milo now Kate's spokesperson/manager/handler/pr rep?
My how the mighty have fallen.
Seeing as how Kate trashed Em and was rude to the bone, I fail to see how Diana Mizota's "interview" was fair, true and accurate in describing Kate as...likeable.
Baffles the mind.
I guess the kids are used to people coming and going, but gee, Jon needs to get comfortable in his own life before introducing another woman to the kids.
Haven't they been through enough?
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He was with Ellen almost two years. These kids are smart. They might feel slighted, left out, less than if Jon HIDES his friend from them. These kids are certainly old enough to understand that this is daddy's friend dad's spending time with to see if maybe she might be a good fit to be together forever some day. These things don't always work out but you don't know unless you give them a chance. The kids aren't babies for pete sake. And knowing Kate you know she would decry how upset the kids are because Jon ripped another person they loved out of their lives if they were--they seem fine to me. For all we know Ellen still sees them and nothing has changed.
I think it's much crueler to put these children through eleven nannies. Yes, there have been at least eleven--I did a post showing all of their photos once. Ellen was just Jon's "friend." A nanny is much more personal and emotional, tucking you in, feeding you, picking you up, acting in the mothering role. Now THAT is what is cruel. Look how they acted when Ashley left, they were traumatized. That's what cruel.
Here's a tweet from someone who apparently asked Cindy Cardella how many people were signed up:
"She said right around 30 but don't know if she was including my 4. Ppl always cancel, too."
Apparently this person has also decided to pass on the cruise. This cruise isn't looking too good.
IMO, I understand that's your opinion. That's mine.
Calling it frivolous junk is WAY harsh and kind of insulting to people who do want to buy it. How about just, I don't care for it?
Jon was with Ellen for 2 years. That's hardly a fly by relationship, he was clearly serious. I believe he truly expected it would lead to marriage. The relationship didn't work out. That happens. To tell Jon (or anyone) that they should not bring their long-term partner into their children's lives is just small-minded.
I have been a single parent. I didn't introduce my kids to casual dates but they did get to know a few of my long term boyfriends before I met my new husband. I don't feel bad about that at all.
That happens. To tell Jon (or anyone) that they should not bring their long-term partner into their children's lives is just small-minded.
I have been a single parent. I didn't introduce my kids to casual dates but they did get to know a few of my long term boyfriends before I met my new husband. I don't feel bad about that at all.
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I totally agree. I think there is a fine line between marginalizing your life. Your life is your life, why shouldn't your kids be a part of your life, including relationships? Not a few casual dates of course but a 2 year relationship, that's a no brainer.
It is not the worst thing in the world for kids to see the natural course of a relationship.
What if you were in the military and moved around a lot. Should you tell your kids don't make any friends because we're going to move in two years? Of course not.
It's fine for kids to learn that relationships have courses and sometimes they run them. God willing these kids might someday, somehow find healthy relationships of their own when they are adults. Lord knows they aren't learning a thing from Kate on this subject.
Forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I was reading every comment but got called away and didn't make it all the way through.
Kate did NOT admit to starting the tweet war. The tweet apologizing for starting it was from the fan who innocently asked about the calendar. After all the kerfluffle, the fan tweeted that he/she was sorry to have brought it up because she didn't know it would start trouble.
Silly haters. You should know that Kate is NEVER in the wrong.
OH, and another point! Shouldn't Jon also be afforded the opportunity to observe if Ellen is comfortable and patient and good with his kids? What if he hides her from the kids then introduces the kids when they get engaged and Ellen ends up being really bad with them?
It seems to me with EIGHT kids you need to make it a priority to know whether your significant other can handle that.
New Kid in fairness Kate also said she actually "started it" (the twitter war) and that she "didn't mean to cause a war."
She did say that from what I understand of reading it. It's not exactly an apology but it's more responsibility than she usually takes.
Well, I guess milo reads here. Cindy just denied (to milo) that she let anyone know (maybe except for CJ???) how many people have signed up for the cruise.
I don't believe her.
What's with the people criticizing Em, who was rudely and randomly LIBELED by Kate? Em didn't create this mess, Kate did, and got bitchslapped for it, rightly so. Kate must know she's in the wrong because she slinked away and actually STFU for once when Em said she saved all her emails. Love it.
The truth will set Jon free said... 46
As a westbrooke neighbor for three years, Jon is a wonderful father, wonderful and my husband and I never waiver on that. People do not understand intense filming and how he was treated, we never condoned his short yes short tangent he went through but having bared witness, we in a strange way understood. The mans family colleagues and friends surrounded him and he came back around and got his perspective back. My husband and I have all the faith in the world because he had a strong upbringing from a wonderful father. Jon was thankful of the kindnesses he received and as far as Kate I will say what my mother always said....if you don't have nothing to say, say nothing at all.........................................
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Thank you for sharing your perspective with all of us.
Your story seems to be the concensus with all that have come into contact with Jon.
He's been through alot in a short period of time. It's good to know that his friends & neighbors came to his aide.
Sometimes people post on here about feeling like there is some "party line" that people need to tow else they be labeled "sheeple." I just want to point out that this is an example of that.
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The problem with this example is that the FIRST thing this person tweeted was about how much they loved a sheeple blog that attacks this one.....
It's actually not the best example to use to say people shouldn't name-call. Since I've asked people to stop I've actually noticed most people really trying not to do that.
Karma said... 105
This cruise isn't looking too good.
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I'm beginning to think Alice Travel should put an image of the sinking Titanic on the link to kategosselincruise.
Cindy is just as bad as Kate. After tweeting back and forth with the person interested in the cruise, when the person decides not to go Cindy tweets "Thank you, Mrs. XXXXX, I will take you off the list".
This person's last name is not part of her twitter profile-Cindy had a hell of a nerve using it.
Now the fans are claiming this person is a hater in disguise. How do they know that for sure? Because she was tweeting with some on the non-fans. They're so quick to judge and accuse-just like their queen.
One of the ones that attacked this person, also attacked Ashley on twitter. Wish someone would retweet that tweet to Kate.
On second thought, I take that back. I don't wish Ashley's name to be involved in anything to do with Kate and her fans.
Kate's fans don't see the bad side of Kate, and Kate's doesn't see the bad side of her fans. They all deserve each other.
AuntieAnn said... 102
miloandjack
@Sue_Buddy I suggest you e-mail her and respectfully request an interview. Given the nature of past articles, I doubt she could trust U! :)
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WTF?
Is Milo now Kate's spokesperson/manager/handler/pr rep?
My how the mighty have fallen.
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AuntieAnn, I was just replying to Milo's ridiculous tweet:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @DianeMizota I truly believe that if everyone had the privilege of sittin down 1 on 1 w/U...U would convert so many 2liking U!
Milo is insane. For real.
Karma said... 105
This cruise isn't looking too good.
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AuntieAnn said... 116
I'm beginning to think Alice Travel should put an image of the sinking Titanic on the link to kategosselincruise.
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Frigid Kate can be the iceberg!
Ah come on Sue Buddy, do it. See if she'll let you have an interview. Wouldn't you love to get inside that head of hers? Examine the hamster wheel and all that.
I will say I'm 'amazed' that people like Diane say the things they do after an interview with her. I wonder if they're just blowing smoke up her butt, if they're really naive, or if Kate has some kind of snake-charming quality we're not aware of.
Virginia Penn mom - haha!
I believe Kate is very capable of freezing up even the warmest ocean current.
Admin, I completely support your decision to block out the children's faces. Thank you for doing that.
This is too funny for words:
Kate Gosselin Cruise @CindyCardella
@CaitlinMC2 it is not $800 a person. again don't listen to haters. We have Paula Deena Cruises every year, we know what we r doing
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Cough, cough. Sure, you do. That's why you won't name a charity or disclose on your site the price to attend the optional charity dinner; why you won't give details on a shore excursion; why you won't be upfront about what tips are included; why you run a disclaimer that makes no sense; why you would pimp out kids just to attract passengers; why your page says "morning jogs," and yet you, in your tweets, say "jog," singular; why you vet potential customers....
I saw her tweet in which she used the person's last name. It's a public Twitter, for gosh sakes. How professional is that? I'll say one thing. She really has...um...balls!
So Crazy Milo has now set herself up as Kate's business manager? This just keeps getting more bizarre. What happened to Barb?
Oh, and Cindy tweeted that haters just want Kate to fail.
No, Cindy, Kate HAS failed. Miserably. In every thing she's done. Past tense. Kate did that to herself a long time ago. She's just now seeing that what goes around, comes around.
tamara or joker..hi khate=).....
waving arms wildly
.ala milo
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
Seriously why is Cindy even engaging with "haters" and talking about "haters"? How unprofessional. She might want to get the name of her talent right too, it's not Paula Denna. Had I not seen her FB I would have assumed she is a 21 year old intern the niece of some hot shot who landed a great internship. I am shocked to know she is Kate's age.
Also, if you need to go to all the trouble of sitting down with someone one on one just to prove you're not a mean, vile, nasty person, you might just be a mean, vile, nasty person. Who has the time for such sit downs with every single person you encounter in life? Why not just be nice to everyone and not be so vile and then you won't need to bother with sit downs?
If they are so confident in their cruise why don't they name the charity, list all the hidden fees, and disclose how many people are going and how much interaction you'll get with the twins? Why play hide the ball?
Oh, and Cindy tweeted that haters just want Kate to fail.
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Oh good grief. The comments whenever Kate does something completely on her own have always been overwhelmingly supportive and I proved it last time someone took me to task last time by drudging up old posts.
I don't want Kate to fail, I want Kate to get a real job that is consistent and will support her kids. I want her to succeed at a real job so the kids can finally have privacy.
Yes, I would like to see the twins not be made to work on this cruise. I would also like to see her fans treated with respect and not swindled. That is all.
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I remember the doctor saying that same thing when he cut off the right leg instead of the left.
I don't care if this freak Cindy has been on a hundred cruises, no one knows what they are doing when handling Kate.
Frankly, I thought the same thing! Only Kate would care enough to bash Em Tanner. No One would care if Em laughied all the way to the bank but Kate. In fact most would high five her on her way! Kate made an ass of herself again and dissing Em doesn't change that.
Personally I think the statement laughing all the way to the bank is very mean and insulting unless you are really sure that is what is happening. And when did America get so against making money, for pity sake that is what we are founded on, go out there and earn yourself a good living and live the American dream. So that's not always what happens but that has surely been our principles since we began.
Why aren't we happy when people make money as long as they are not exploiting kids? Since Em stopped exploiting the Gosselin kids like three years ago, I say make bank and make a lot of it.
That's one reason Kate's comment about Jon's mediocre job was so irritating to me. At least he is out there making money through his own sweat blood and tears like the rest of America which is more than I can say of her. There is NO shame in a decent job, none. I don't care if it pays 4 bucks an hour or 400, hold your head high and work hard.
People don't want to see Kate fail, Kate IS failing in almost every way possible! People want her to stop failing and finally find employment. People pray that some day she can find joy in raising her children. We'd love her to be nice to people and get a good shrink. Kate is a huge failure, that's what the "hate" is all about. If it were just about her, that's one thing. With 8 kids, completely another.
At what point will Cindy Cardella break? When are the deposits due? April something, IIRC. Nobody who is involved with Katie Irene is in it for the long haul. Most, in fact, have a very public blow-up. Tony the dancer, JG, Beth, Ashley, EM Tanner...the list is long. Judging from history the blow-up will occur on the cruise. That ought to be worth the price of admission.
BTW, Is Cindy Cardella denying the $800 surcharge?
Kimmie she did not apologize and did not say she was wrong. WRONG. EHHH. BUZZER.
This is what she said: I started it by explaining 2 Jess.Didn't mean2 cause a war but had2 exp when she went ballistic!
I do not see an apology there. I see I started it. I see I didn't mean to cause a war. I do not see I'm sorry. I do not see remorse. Instead she says BUT I HAD TO DO THIS because Em Tanner went "ballistic."
In her so called apology, she insults Em yet AGAIN.
If this is an apology then I've been reading the wrong books.
Weezie 76 ..."actually you can fall over now b/c kate actually did apologize and said she was wrong last night."
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Kate tweeted last night and said that she was sorry? Really? Could you post it here?
I'm Sorry, sorry to disappoint you but you've been had. Kate didn't apologize. Kate took slight ownership of the fiasco by saying she started it (okay, it's a start, Kate). However, she wasn't sorry about insulting EM, she was only sorry she started a twitter war. Notice the distinction--I'm not sorry for anything I said to Em, I merely sorry that it turned into a war. (I.e. it's too bad Em fought back and made it into a war.)
And for good measure she accused Em of going ballistic. Well, I would too if someone tried to trash my LIVELIHOOD.
Apparently Kate is one of those jerks that apologizes like so: "It is a shame YOU got hurt but I had to do what I did because you were going nutty. Okay so we're good now right??"
In case you are wondering, this is no apology. This is called BLAME SHIFTING.
As someone whose had a number of step-parents/long term 'shippers I've got to say that there is no right amount of time to introduce the kid to a parent's b/gfriend. It depends too much on the kids and their relationship with that parent. Also on the person being introduced into their lives. Ellen seemed like a good model for the kids, whereas Haley, not so much.
In case you are wondering, this is no apology. This is called BLAME SHIFTING.
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Yeah but it's the ONLY "apology" you're going to get from a narcissist.
"IF I hurt you then I'm sorry....but I still don't think I hurt you." is another favorite.
Why did Em start sending free stuff to the Gosselins? I think she said she first sent things before the tv show started. If that is so, it doesn't seem like she did it for business/advertising. Is she from Penn?
admin said...I'm Sorry, sorry to disappoint you but you've been had.
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I kind of figured that there was no apology. I wanted to see kimmie produce the actual tweet in which Kate said that she was sorry. I'd only believe it if I saw it.
Oh, and sorry, Weezie. I thought that comment came from you when it was kimmie who said it. I apologize.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @DianeMizota I truly believe that if everyone had the privilege of sittin down 1 on 1 w/U...U would convert so many 2liking U!
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UM yeah no and how do you convert people into liking you.?
I thought that people liked you they like you and if they didn't they just didn't.
And Kate's in the business of being living of her kids names and being unemployed.
"IF I hurt you then I'm sorry....but I still don't think I hurt you." is another favorite.
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Yes. Silly me when I apologize I try to just say "I'm sorry" and don't embellish it with a lot of details. I don't want the other person feeling like I"m trying to qualify myself.
I also like, well, that's not how I remember it, but I'll take your word for it and I'm sorry if that's what happened.
Just inserting the word "sorry" in there is not enough. But incidentally, Kate didn't even say the word sorry in her "apology" that was no apology at all.
Tamara, the sextuplet's birth was actually national news since at the time sextuplets continued to be pretty rare. Anyone else remember where they were in May 2004? I was living in D.C. at the time and I remember a news blurb about it and it stuck out to me because I had been to Hershey several times and there was also a blurb about Joe Paterno visiting them and I was a fan.
From what I understand, Em Tanner just heard about them pre-show just like I did. She started sending them clothes and things not too long after. It does suggest it being even less of a business deal and more of a "I just want to help out" thing. Without the show the clothing was going to get but minimal exposure.
I believe it was Gosselins Go Dutch that Kate explains about Em Tanner, something to the effect of this woman heard about us and loves us and wants to help. I don't know the exact quote.
Then they got the show, and got a bit more formal with the business deal.
Besides wanting to make sure no woman ever gets a legal abortion, one Twitter nut is attacking Jon because its done to Kate.
Yep. Someone does something you don't like, do it worse, very Christian.
So Alice can take her kids to the movies but Kate can't
https://twitter.com/#!/CindyCardella/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FIrunMEhA
To clarify, Kate didn't even apologize for starting the Twit Fit. Here is the tweet that has been falsely attributed to Kate:
Jess duncan @Jessandken04
@Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack @emtannerdesigns Sorry I feel bad i started this topic. Didn't want to cause any trouble. :(
Poor sweet Em just "didn't know how to help kate"
Maria's mom
Why does Cindy have random photos of family members no one has a clue who they are on a twitter account that is specifically called and specifically about "Kate Gosselin Cruise"? The whole thing is so weird and unprofessional. Why would she think anyone would care about some random PR person's kids?
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/20/world/europe/uk-harry-potter-actor-jailed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Another Harry Potter actor is in trouble, the guy who played the school bully just got sentenced to two years for being part of riots and carrying a bomb.
Further proof giving up your entire teen years to six movies back to back to back is such a great idea.
Kate is like the pitcher you can never fill. She expects more. Thus, the Greedy Grifter is how we think of her. No surprise here. She is ungrateful and expects more and more. She truly needs closed door therapy sessions with someone who will help her see the light and error of her ways. Not betting on that happening any time soon are we?
Yeah, about the shirts. How does sending a family 10-numbered shirts in pink and blue to wear to a local amusement park, that Jon wouldn't wear which Kate couldn't wear because she couldn't be 9 without Jon being 10...helping the family exactly?
I do not blame EM Tanner if it was a nice, kind, thoughtful gesture...but Kate tends to just run with things that people "love them." Just because you do something nice for somebody doesn't mean you "love" them. I bought a box of chocolate covered cherries for a lady who works at my local corner market I see everyday for coffee...I don't love her. I did something nice for someone because I wanted to, because I wanted to see look of happiness on someone else's face not because I expect anything in return.
Another lesson Kate has forever failed at. Doing something nice for someone else just because well, it's nice. When's the last time she ever did anything for someone else because she felt like it and it wasn't scripted in their show?
My mistake, admin--I missed that Kate tweet saying she started it. With that gracious apology. Oh wait, I dreamed the part about the gracious apology.
On the other hand, you're right--that is more responsibility than Kate usually takes for anything. Which is zero.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 149
Why does Cindy have random photos of family members no one has a clue who they are on a twitter account that is specifically called and specifically about "Kate Gosselin Cruise"? The whole thing is so weird and unprofessional. Why would she think anyone would care about some random PR person's kids?
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I hope their her children or at least some relation to them.
If not that's just super-duper creepy.
Interesting useless trivia: Kate Gosselin is certainly not the only 'tv personality' to have 'haters' and 'crazy fans'....
- Jill Zarin
- Taylor Armstrong
- Beth Chapman (Dog's wife)
- Justin Bieber (performer)
- even Madonna(!)
All of the above are harassed 24/7 on twitter. I'm pretty sure most of the people who post on this blog don't engage in this behaviour with Kate. Just thought it was interesting to know.
AuntieAnn said... 122
Ah come on Sue Buddy, do it. See if she'll let you have an interview. Wouldn't you love to get inside that head of hers? Examine the hamster wheel and all that.
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Can you imagine all the clanking and grinding going on in there? Seriously, ummmm, why interview someone you know is going to lie?
To clarify, Kate didn't even apologize for starting the Twit Fit. Here is the tweet that has been falsely attributed to Kate:
Jess duncan @Jessandken04
@Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack @emtannerdesigns Sorry I feel bad i started this topic. Didn't want to cause any trouble. :(
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That's what I thought as well until I looked back to see if Kate did give a semi-almost-kinda apology. She did.
Jess apologized for starting it and not meaning to cause trouble. Kate echoed that she (Kate) started it and didn't meant to cause a war. Confusing because both said something so similar.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @Jessandken04 @emtannerdesigns I started it by explaining 2 Jess.Didn't mean2 cause a war but had2 exp when she went ballistic!
Admin, completely off topic, but more validation for Lifetime's swiffering of the offensive show girl episode...
When you did your post about the swiffering, I commented that Comcast was still running the episode On Demand. I wondered if Lifetime had contacted Comcast but perhaps there was just a lag time. Apparently there was. I noticed last night that Comcast is carrying Dance Moms episodes 7, 8, and 10. Number 9 (show girls) is mysteriously missing.
It's been reported 30 people have signed up for Kate's cruise.
How many people typically book for a celeb cruise?
Virginia Pen Mom said... 157
Okay, thanks for correcting me. I had missed that one ;)
@hopefor2012Jess I'm so sorry! My fave baby in nursery at church (I was 15)died from SIDS as well.Gabrielle. I can't imagine being m&d..:(
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It's an illness with her isnt it? EVERYTHING is all about Kate. Cant she just express condolences without adding 2 references to how this applies to HER? She doesnt even know she is doing it, I am convinced. Wouldnt matter if she did, she wouldnt be able to control herself anyway.
Joker - What makes you think that there is ANYTHING Jon can do to "get along" with Kate? That woman is bound & determined to NOT get along with him.
READERLADY: If I recall correctly, dont we live near each other? I am in northern Summit County...
Are you an SLP? Some of my fave people!
If you click on my blue blogger name, you can email me... 84 today here too and wearing my Tshirt to run my errands!
Apologies to Admin and all for the OT. :)
This Caitlin woman, the "Live One" expressed that her biggest concern was her privacy being maintained. She had read about CJ "vetting" people & found that inappropriate. Once she was convinced it was not something she wanted to be involved in, Cindy Cardella posted her last name for all the stalker world to see. I hope she's fired. What an unprofessional loser. That was an intentional stick up that poor woman's nose.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 157
That's what I thought as well until I looked back to see if Kate did give a semi-almost-kinda apology. She did.
Jess apologized for starting it and not meaning to cause trouble. Kate echoed that she (Kate) started it and didn't meant to cause a war. Confusing because both said something so similar.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @Jessandken04 @emtannerdesigns I started it by explaining 2 Jess.Didn't mean2 cause a war but had2 exp when she went ballistic!
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Kate's reply was to MiloandJack who said (not a quote) that Em Tanner had nerve to start with Kate on Twitter instead of doing so privately.
Joker, you have no idea, none at all, what Jon has done trying to get along with Kate for the sake of the kids.
He has tried so hard to treat his former wife as a friend with whom he shares children, but she is over-the-top angry, petty and spiteful about every single thing.
Things like pick up and drop off times, what the kids wear and eat, whether or not she 'allows' him access to the kids school functions, their medical care, everything.
She is loud and mean about holding Jon to standards she herself does not observe.
She still wants Jon to manage things while she sits back and interfers and complains about him.
She is vicious towards Jon and towards the kids about their own daddy.
And, he never set Ellen up as a 'step parent' to the kids.
He spends as much private time as possible with each of his kids, sometimes Ellen was there and often she wasnt.
When they were all together, Jon was the decision maker with the kids and the parent.
It's hard for any woman to think of her ex husband putting another mom figure in kids lives. Dont assume Ellen was a 'step mom' to the kids. You dont know what really went on, no matter how hard it is for YOU.
It's NYC hair-frying, sole-in-paper day! (Only her hairdresser knows for sure, and he just tweeted about it.) Whatever. Sure hope it improves her mood.
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Joker, you have no idea, none at all, what Jon has done trying to get along with Kate for the sake of the kids.
He has tried so hard to treat his former wife as a friend with whom he shares children, but she is over-the-top angry, petty and spiteful about every single thing.
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Of course Kate is angry and spiteful. Kate wants to be a TV star and the only way she can is if Jon allows his children to be filmed. He won't. You can hear the bitterness in her voice when she spoke about it in interviews.
First, Jon wouldn't go along with their "fake family" show any longer and Kate has never forgiven him for it. Now, he won't allow the children to be filmed. Kate has no TV show and she blames Jon. Yes, Kate is bitter and angry. We saw how Kate treated him when she "loved" him. I can't imagine how she treats him now.
Joker's Wild said... 59
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But Kate bringing film crew "daddies" in and out of their little lives for years is OK? Knowing damn well that the show would not, could not go on forever. Yet, she bragged about how much the kids love them and miss them.
Seriously. Jon was in a long-term relationship for 2 years. It was damn appropriate to introduce the kids to Ellen and how would you know that she was their de facto mother on Jon's weekends? Even if she was, and who can blame her for loving those kids, if she didn't like it, she's a big girl and responsible for her own actions.
You are completely knit-picking and it's petty crap.
Yes, it seems Kate is in NYC for her monthly hair fry. My big question for anyone that knows is does purse-boy go with her.
Of course Kate is angry and spiteful. Kate wants to be a TV star and the only way she can is if Jon allows his children to be filmed. He won't. You can hear the bitterness in her voice when she spoke about it in interviews.
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Darn right, SG. Anger drips like venom from her maw. The show tanked without Jon. Stiller without Meara, Burns without Gracie, Ricky without Lucy. You get the picture.
Kate couldn't carry the show and at some point, the antipathy towards her stopped working in her favor.
Jon introduced ONE girlfriend to his children and their relationship lasted two years.
Kate introduced those children to nannies, crew members, family and close friends and bragged about how much these children love them (and vice versa) and claimed that they will always be in these children's lives. Where are they now?
As someone else said, I don't have to hope for Kate to fail, she's very accomplished at shooting herself in the foot with no help from anyone!
That interview with the Diane lady was very interesting, not a word I'd usually use to describe interviews with Kate.
So she's totally unemployed (and unemployable, but hasn't realized that yet) and is just...drifting along on a hope and a prayer with eight kids and a money suck house and money suck cars, huh?
Just wishing. And waiting.
Well, Kate's got a long damn wait if she thinks anyone is interested in putting her on TV again. Or for that matter, hiring her as a nurse. I wouldn't hire her to walk my damn dog, she's that vile.
And if she's still going to Jason for her hair at this point, I'm convinced she's paying for it out of her own pocket now. That's right, Kate, go through alllllllll the savings. Don't be smart about it, just worry about keeping yourself in the lifestyle to which you've become accustomed. The kids can always wear hand-me-downs (in the boys' case, from whom?) and drink juice from the discount grocery and have a tablespoon of eggs for breakfast. And eventually, go to public school. And eventually, go live with their dad. Because God knows you'd never give up all the perks you think YOU'RE owed in life.
Marie:
That was a nice gesture you gave to the woman at the coffee shop yo go to.
As for Em Tanner, she gave the Gosselins way more than just those specific shirts. Some of her stuff is cutesie, so I can see Jon not wanting to wear it, but the other shirts, plates, calendars etc were worn and used a lot and seemed to be of high quality. I bet Kate loved them since they matched. She assumes everyone 'loves' them and if you don't , you have a problem. She has said anyone who meets her kids is charmed by them, and people who meet her are pleased to find her an awesome person despite the rumors that go with her 'business.'
Bitter End (134), on the $800 "surcharge:
There is (or was a couple of months ago--prices probably change based on bookings as you get closer to the travel date) an $835 difference b/t what Cindy is charging (this is for the cheapest accommodation) and what you can purchase direct from RC. Cindy says that her fare includes "port fees and gratuities." What she doesn't say is that:
--it only includes ONE shore excursion (Haiti);
--it does not include "traditional" tips (in fact, on some of the cruise web sites people say that envelopes labeled "steward," "housekeeping," etc., are provided for passengers in each cabin, IN ADDITION TO gratuities being automatically added to your bill at each meal);
--it does not include surcharges for more than 50% of the eateries onboard (including Starbucks) or for most beverages; you get the idea.
I think it was Jumping In who has cruise sales experience, and she said traditional take for the agent is 15%. SO: Assuming that is true, that would mean around $300 for Cindy. Port fees & gratuities are a question mark, maybe Jumping In can chime in on this, but $100-150 in total seems reasonable to me. So $400 per head for KATE does not seem too off the mark. And this is the number that Cindy apparently let slip to Live One last night, as in, if Kate cancels, this would be your refund.
That piece of work, Cindy Cardella is going to rue the day she crossed paths with Kate:
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@CindyCardella @Kateplusmy8 Because I choose not to go on cruise you release my personal info?!! I hope you enjoyed your job while it lasted
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@CindyCardella @Kateplusmy8 Will be forwarding your twitter remarks to me to your superior. You are extremely unprofessional!!
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Such an assh*le-ish thing to do. What was Cindy thinking? She has officially gone way down to Kate's level for money.
I totally buy into that only 30 people have signed up so far for the cruise. Pretty funny when Cindy said they had set aside for 200. Don't worry, sheeple, Kate will be there because it's money in her pocket. I think Cindy is pretty unprofessional if she is engaging with the "haterz". Tweeting sure can get you into trouble.
We got it right...tweeting is biting Kate in her flat butt. She can't hide her true personality and Cindy will be treated to it and so will her adoring shipboard sheeple.
Love the insight by the commenter regarding the Red Cross event. Of course Kate pranced around like a movie star. She is delusional.
Good for the woman who rightly got pissed that her name was published on Twitter. Cindy has unprofessionally participated in Twitter slamming and now this.
Crossed. The. Line.
30 people for Kate's cruise is a really poor showing. For as much as Cindy has begged on Twitter.... bad.
I doubt Cindy will get fired, but anyone who goes near Kate finds it ends up being toxic.
I thought she said she had a bad school morning, which means pity the children. I am surprised that they are still doing her hair, since they are affiliated with TLC.
I am betting she is not getting it for free anymore, but discounted because of the publicity. Since we still talk about every appointment, it's fine with them. HOWEVER, her hair looks like shit so I don't get it.
BTW, the hair appointment is probably because Easter is coming up and she wants to look "good" for those blog photos. Gotta fry that hair and hide brunette roots!
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Dwindle 42 -- My degree is in Speech (Audiology and Speech Pathology) and History, with a minor in Vocal Music. I was in Chapel Choir 3 years. Took a few Soc. courses. Bet we had some of the same profs. Did you have Grimm? Frye? Burke? Edmondson? Langholz? Montgomery? Heinke? Zimpher? How neat that you and niece are doing a legacy photo! I'll be thinking of you tomorrow, but NOT wearing a Cap shirt (only one I have is a sweatshirt and it's going to be 84 here).
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Readerlady - we have a lot in common! I will be graduating this summer with my masters in SLP, and my BA is in Vocal Music Performance! And we're both in the central Ohio area. I knew you were a special lady! : )
Cindy is officially in way over her head.
That is insane that she published someone's last name and no wonder that person freaked. I hope she does go higher up.
The fact that Cindy posted her last name makes me think that the rumors about her screening people through CJ are absolutely true.
Knows Quality 188:
Well, the MOM blogger, Diane Mizota, just posted a 2nd part to the interview.
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Thank you for posting that.
I am betting that KK put on her sad/serious face with an air of piety and dabbed her eyes during that interview.
I recommend Joker do some reading up about parental alienation and how it is impossibly difficult to just do everything you can to "get along."
There is no getting along with obsessed parental alienators. None.
Can someone please explain in what context did that Cardella lady use that person's last name in her tweet? Is her twitter (cardella's) public/private (whatever that means:)
Was she responding to a tweet from CJ?
Just maybe if someone can explain the whole scoop from beginning to end...I'm a little confused
Vanessa, they were Cindy and that lady were going back and forth about the cruise, and the 'customer' didn't even say no for sure, but Cindy got snippy and said, "OK Mrs. So-and-So, I'll take you off the list."
Here's the tweets:
Caitlin MC @CaitlinMC2 · Open
@EmeraldCityJazz @CindyCardella @Kateplusmy8 Can you imagine being stuck in Haiti in August w a crying 9 yr old & no Kate & twins? Yikes.
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@CaitlinMC2 Thank you Mrs. XXX [Cindy wrote her real last name] I will take you off the list
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@CindyCardella @CaitlinMC2 What are you trying to do Cindy? Trying to give Caitlin's personal info to CJ? You stupid bitch!
11h Squatter @SuzeW718 · Open
@CindyCardella @CaitlinMC2 Why are you tweeting a potential customer's last name? Why not send an email? @RoyalCarribean
What Cindy did was OUTRAGEOUS. Simply outrageous. I don't care if she felt the person was being rude, or was a hater, or whatever.
Then, when someone said they would report her to the BBB, she snottily accused them of having sock accounts. She needs to grow up:
@NotDisclosing Btw everyone knows you are the same person with multiple accounts.
Yikes, what a terrible sentence above. So sorry. Also, Cindy has NOT removed that tweet with the customer's name. The back and forth was very civil, I don't know what happened.
And you know what I think the first tweet was trying to be a joke! To lighten the mood because Cindy had been talking about what kind of refund you get if Kate doesn't show. I think the person was saying oh my gosh can you imagine going on the cruise with my crying kid and no Kate! Tee hee!
Then CIndy has a conniption and posts their real name and takes them off the list??? WHOA!
I would not believe for a second this woman is 36 years old if not for her FB.
Vanessa, go to Preesi's site, all of what you're asking about is there, in proper order. It's WAY too complicated to try to explain.
http://preesi.lefora.com/2012/01/06/will-it-ever-end-kate-gosselin-cruise/page45/
Wow, that interview with Diane M...when Kate says, "good things will happen because...well, they have to. I've got a lot riding on it" (talking about her next "big job"). Wow, that really said it all. We have all been wondering why she won't get a real job to keep herself (and the kids) from losing it all. After reading that interview, I realize that she has no intention--ever--of getting a "real" job. Ever since the tups were born, she has just wished for something, and it has happened for her. She is going to hold out for the "big job" until they are out on the street. That's why she bans everyone on Twitter who's not being "positive" (to her, being positive means kissing her bum and telling her that she's still a big star and the "big one" is coming her way).
She has a lot riding on it...well, yes, she is gambling with her kids' future well-being, so I'd agree that she has EVERYTHING riding on it. If this hoped-for big job doesn't materialize, then the kids lose their home and their school. They will go from a McMansion to nothing. Of course, Kate believes that someone will come along and rescue them before that happens--she will use the kids (like she always has) to shame people into providing for her and for them--but without any doubt, she has no intention--EVER, EVER,EVER--of doing it herself. Frightening.
UNBELIEVABLE! Live One is posting what Cindy sent her. And yes, Cindy DID lie about telling her the # of people. Hope the links work.
http://twitter.com/#!/CaitlinMC2/status/182474112214642688/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#!/CaitlinMC2/status/182474933891371008/photo/1
Thanks Gift of grab, will do!
Read at Preesi's someone found the Code of Ethics for Travel Agents:
6. Confidentiality. ASTA members will treat every client transaction confidentially and not disclose any information without permission of the client, unless required by law.
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UNBELIEVABLE! Live One is posting what Cindy sent her. And yes, Cindy DID lie about telling her the # of people. Hope the links work.
http://twitter.com/#!/CaitlinMC2/status/182474112214642688/photo/1
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Cindy clear as day denied that she told her how many people are going but there's her email right there saying 30 are going !
So Cindy is in over her had now, officially. Also defending CJ when we can all see what VILE tweets that woman has made??? WTF!
I thought Cindy was just sort of inept all this time but now she has morphed into a liar and someone who is violating her own Code of Ethics. This is out of control.
Look I don't agree with the insane twitter wars but to pick one of the insane tweeters out and call them a good guy one to be trusted is just nuts. None of them are to be trusted on EITHER side. Get an ounce of professionalism and stay away from all of them.
She can whine about her tough am w/kids, announce she's going to 'attack' her schedule and not tell her tweeties the schedule is a 'me me me hair fry day' in the big city? Oh poor Kate.
By the way does anyone else think it is wildly inappropriate to announce on twitter that these poor kids had a rough morning?
Wtf.
She can whine about her tough am w/kids, announce she's going to 'attack' her schedule and not tell her tweeties the schedule is a 'me me me hair fry day' in the big city? Oh poor Kate.
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Ha. I guess she didn't count on her NYC boy outing her.
Oh and they probably had a rough morning too because Kate told them she was off to NYC and wouldn't be home in time for dinner because they have reservations at Fig and Olive and that the nanny will have to tuck them in. Poor kids.
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